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janet, I do believe you owe Paul Ayers an apology. Go back and read Darwin's message-he says Paul Ayers is an Engineer at Cessna in Wichita, Kansas. That is the best recommendation anyone could offer me!! I would try to explain to you about Industrial Espionage, which may be why Paul's email is routed as it is. Anyway, Its his business, not any of ours, it he routes it to Mars, Venus and the Moon, before coming back to earth. The fact that he can correspond with us is important, not how he does it! Cessna Employee Flying Club is where I learned to fly. I lived in Kansas for 36 years. The kindest, most helpful people live in Kansas. To say that moving to South Florida was somewhat a culture shock ,at the time, is the understatement of the year. just me, Marjorie