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I really didnt mean to set off a list war when I vented about gun control - we all have our own opinions, and while the "smart" people agree with me (smile), everyone is welcome to their own opinion. Lately it seems like we are beginning to argue over the morality of guns/abortion etc. and to me, this is a waste of time. Morals are usually learned when we are quite young, and rarely change over time. They are a set of beliefs, and while my morals may differ from yours, arguing about them is not likely to change either of our minds over "whose is right". To me, there is nothing morally wrong with hunting, or killing for food, but I know many people who eat beef while saying its morally wrong to kill deer. I dont understand this viewpoint, but I do respect their right to have it. I suspect arguing morals is kinda like wrestling pigs - you are both going to get muddy, but the pig is going to enjoy it.... Just another opinion... bob aka tex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.