Kees Paap wrote: > > when I am "off" ...real "off", then my arms weighs a ton and the mouse two !! > It must not hit a little dust or I have already problems. A trackball helps > but is useless when you are "on", because it doesn;t work (for me) as good > as a mouse. If you give me your address I send you my q-tips and my little > bottle of alcohol:) I use and like something called a "glide-point" by the Cirque Corporation. Bought on sale years ago but haven't seen recently. A little metal frame holds a flat plastic screen about 1.5 in high by 2 in wide, that responds to touch of a fingertip. Sliding touch moves the screen cursor, just as with a mouse or trackball. One or two light taps is a left "click" or "doubleclick", or you can use the left- and right-click keys on the lower (nearest) edge. No space-hog mousepad on my cluttered table, no irritating run off the edge while I'm watching the screen, no groping for the mouse while typing or editing, because the little pad never moves. Ideally, I'd like it as near as possible to the "typewriter part of the PC keyboard, so I wouldn't have to move my arm at all to reach it. The "editing" keys (Insert, Page Up, Delete, etc.) get in the way for that, but I did make a little metal stand for it, with holes for the rubber feet so it won't slide around, that just fits ever so neatly over the "numbers" keypad at the right-hand end of the "Windows" keyboard. For you lefties, the problem solves itself. If I should ever need to use that "numbers" keypad (and I haven't, since the days a decade ago when it held the 4 "shift" arrows) I can just set it on the table temporarily. Not without its minor problems, but especially for PWP having difficulty with fine motor control, the GlidePoint is a godsend, far preferable to joystick, trackball, or conventional mouse. N.B.: NOT a sales pitch; I only hope you can still find one to give it a try. Cheers, Joe -- J. R. Bruman (818) 789-3694 3527 Cody Road Sherman Oaks, CA 91403-5013