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Sorry, That one really pushed a button in me. My earlier post was ALL I could say at the time. It just seemed that that post was a little on the mean side. When I feel someone ganging up on someone I get a little silly myself. I apologize to Joe, or anyone else I may have offended. I lost my best friend a year ago. He was 37, Gay, and the single parent of 2 boys. He very much enjoyed Dr Laura. Me, now I like her show about as much as politics. I enjoy the education as many of you debate each other about stem cells etc. I'm sure in the end you will all find your common ground. I have received so much encouragement, information, and advice from this list. I signed off another list I was on because of personal attacks against one of the list members. Life is too short to wallow in that. I know that we all see life a little different, but we do have PD in common. David Meigs aka: Pappy [log in to unmask]