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hi again donald i also intended to refer you to the latest acronym update: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/pienet/2nd/11.html if you know of any more that should be added just let me know jmp (JAPLE) janet paterson 53 now / 44 dx cd / 43 onset cd / 41 dx pd / 37 onset pd tel: 613 256 8340 url: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/" email: [log in to unmask] smail: POBox 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada