Marjorie - My love got me back on line and I truly missed all of you, There are some special ones, but I'm afraid if I mention them on the list I will leave an extra special person out. It's so funny that 3 of us were saying there are 5 of us us who seem to want to get to the "nitty gritty" without any controversary. I thank you for your response. And as soon as I get my personal life straightened out, I'll write more (if ever) . Seeya Jo Ann By the way, I loved your closing line "I can't accept defeat yet".. All of us whether we are a PWDP/PSP or a loved one , we should never give up, and I won't, Jo Ann