hi all i meant to clarify my "she's done it again" header above gail has always asked the seemingly simple but oh so important questions which inspire me like "what does 'off' feel like?" which resulted in a message that many people have found helpful [including me] and this time like "what is ROS?" started me digging and then i went digging some more and discovered some pmid abstracts which i had skipped over during the past six months or so and brought the techno miracle that this is back into focus for me once again thank you, gv janet janet paterson 53 now / 44 dx cd / 43 onset cd / 41 dx pd / 37 onset pd TEL: 613 256 8340 URL: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/ EMAIL: [log in to unmask] SMAIL: PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada