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SMAAACK! <--- Barb smacks self on forehead) CHOCOLATE?? Now why didn't _ I _ think of that? <smirk> In case you never knew it, Darwin, you are SOOO wickedly funny! Barb Mallut [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Hawkins, Darwin <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Voice Improvement >Only explanation I have is that it probably contains some component of >chocolate! > >> ---------- >> From: Barb_MSN[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:06 AM >> Subject: Re: Voice Improvement >> >> Hi Eddy and Carolyn... >> >> I'm 57 and have had PD for almost 26 years, I had a successful >> unilateral pallidotomy (brain surgery on one side of the brain for >> relief of PD symptoms in Oct. 1994. >> >> I had collagen injections into my vocal cords initially performed >> by UCLA'S Dr. Gerald Burke with a near perfect return of my >> "normal" voice. The injections last from 3 to 6 months, and mine >> lasted the whole 6 months and cost me $500. >> >> I asked Kaiser of they offered this procedure to their patients >> and they didn't know if rhey did or not. I called all the Kaiser >> facilities in the Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan Area - one >> after another as the Kaiser I regularly go to is in Woodland >> Hills, CA - till I found ONE that said they did that procedure, >> and what's more, the MD who did the collagen injections and been >> trained in this procedure Dr. Burke! >> >> I drove to the Kaiser Metropolitan branch and their MD piddled >> around, turning a 5 minute procedure into an HOUR long procedure >> that didn't work. And it didn't work the 3 or 4 OTHER times he >> tried to do it! AND it didn't work when Dr. Burke did it again! >> It seems my body ABSORBED the collagen with 12 hours of getting >> it! >> >> That's my story.... SO FAR. >> >> Barb Mallut >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eddy Arden <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:37 PM >> Subject: Re: Voice Improvement >> >> >> >I'm so sorry that I missed the original conversations >> >re "Voice Improvement"...My wife, Carolyn, who is 59, >> >and who has Parkinsons for 23 years now, desperately >> >needs all the help and advice we can get concerning >> >this subject. What is this procedure your referring to >> >[ foam and gortex ]and how does Kaiser, our HMO also, >> >fit into the picture? We would really appreciate >> >either Barb or Elizabeth elaborating on this topic. >> >Thank you, Listserv >> >--- Barb_MSN <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Liz... )Mopping up tears) >> >> >> >> I'm SOOO happy for you! (Jumping outta chair and >> >> dancing wildly >> >> 'round living room with joy for ya)) In fact, >> >> you've inspired me >> >> to call UCLA's Dr. Burke once again to see if HE'S >> >> updated his >> >> procedure by adding the foam and the gortex. >> >> >> >> IF he hasn't updated the procedure. THEN, by golly, >> >> I'll start >> >> working on Kaiser to send me into your part of the >> >> world and go >> >> for it h that way. >> >> >> >> YOU GO, GIRL! I salute you... >> >> >> >> Barb Mallut >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Elizabeth Southwood <[log in to unmask]> >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:19 PM >> >> Subject: Voice Improvement >> >> >> >> >> >> >Barb shared her experiences with working with her >> >> voice with us, >> >> a great >> >> >inspiration to me. Here's what's happened to me so >> >> far, with my >> >> voice. I >> >> >was referred by my ENT doctor to another ENT >> >> doctor. This was >> >> about a year >> >> >ago. He said that because of what he found when he >> >> examined me >> >> that he >> >> >thought he could improve my problem, a Parkinsonian >> >> weak, >> >> whispery voice, and >> >> >also improve my swallowing and breathing. In the >> >> meantime I got >> >> sick, then >> >> >tripped and fractured my hip. By the time I saw >> >> him again, about >> >> a month >> >> >ago, the operations used different and improved >> >> materials. >> >> > >> >> >Yesterday I was given a general anesthetic and my >> >> vocal chords >> >> were injected >> >> >with gel-foam which will be absorbed but meanwhile >> >> show me if the >> >> procedure >> >> >is worth doing on a more permanent basis. My >> >> husband is >> >> delighted that I >> >> >have a voice, an honest to goodness voice again and >> >> feels that >> >> 'the permanent >> >> >procedure' is definitely a go. The final material >> >> lasts 2+ >> >> years, I think >> >> >the doctor said. >> >> > >> >> >Thanks heavens for this listserve!! This is only >> >> one of the >> >> things I have >> >> >read that has improved my quality of life with this >> >> dumb >> >> disease -- another >> >> >is the two people (one was Rita) who told us about >> >> Ecco shoes at >> >> Nordstroms >> >> >-- they feel great and are cute or good looking >> >> too. >> >> > >> >> >I sang last night and recited some poetry and read >> >> some >> >> Shakespeare (the >> >> >greatest use of English) and read the cooking and >> >> garden sections >> >> of today's >> >> >paper. Even an improvement that's not a cure, I >> >> realized, can >> >> make a >> >> >difference. >> >> > >> >> >Thank you, Barb, and listserv...Liz S. >> > >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >> >http://photos.yahoo.com/ >>