politics and religion are usually controversial.
just avoiding them will not make them go away.
well--we got rid of humor
and we got rid of too much talk of clinical depression
and now we can get rid of politics
and we can get rid of religion
or we got rid of talk of stem cells
and maybe we can get rid of talk of hope
because that seems to come up a lot
or our medications
because that seems to come up a lot
too controvercial
and we're tired of deleting
but, who is "we"?
my opinion is--let it all be
embrace diversity and learn from one and another,
appreciate the checks and balances differing views represent.
with 1800 of us looking on...
there will certainly be differing opinions expressed.
most of us aren't even in the same country
but, we're all connected,
not just electronically.
if an emotional response is elicited by a list message--
reflect on what chord it struck inside yourself.
if a message does nothing--what use is that?
not interesting?
not informative?
not worth filing into the private archive?
Charlotte Mancuso wrote:
> Greg and others,
>
> I feel that it is entirely appropriate to discuss politics and policies that
yes, if we can't talk about it here...then where?
everything is politics
our existence is inseperable from society
it will have an impact on our parky lives
good or bad
not much miiddle ground here
also, i think that it as important "how" we discuss an issue
debate is good for representing various sides of an issue
flaming, name calling, is not really debate
present factual info, or experience, or quote authorities--
pro and con
...then let the bystanders make up their own minds.
you may not have changed the mind of the person you debate...but,
it can influence so many that you may never hear from.
> affect our lives, our family's lives, and the very welfare of our country.
> I don't want to be a burden on my family and society. I want to live my
> life as a productive person, for everyone's sake, including society's.
i feel the same way...as bit by bit
my dreams are taken from me or my family
and replaced by inevitable nightmares of unecessary suffering
i should have another 20 years until retirement
but, instead i'm struggling to stay on top of what little i do now.
and i've cut back over the past few years even before diagnosis
not knowing what was going on
just knowing things weren't getting done,
that were easy before.
> We, as a species, have nothing to lose and everything to gain by advancing
> this vital, life giving research. The remaining embryos were created to
> bring a new life into the loving arms of a childless couple. The method for
> this happy, fruitful event, results in a number of remaining fertilized eggs
> that are unsuitable for bringing about another child, but eminently suitable
> for saving and mending lives. It is clearly a win-win situation--life from
> life. I cannot imagine anything more pro-life than this.
this is so well put,
i'm sharing it with some people i know
that aren't on the list
i hope you don't mind
> Charlotte Mancuso
>
> Jo Ann Coen wrote:
>
> > Greg - it's obvious you are a democrat. But I think we should keep
> > politics and religion off the list. It will surely start another
> > controversy, and things have gone very smoothly the last few weeks.. Jo
> > Ann from Houston
tranquility is like balance
not necessarily stable
or interesting
or like
neutral gear
not going anywhere
just because things are calm and smooth
doesn't mean progress
unless that is the goal
i'd rather have a cure
and overcome whatever obstacles get in the way
see my tag line
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Ray Strand
...on the edge of the prairie abyss .....................
killing frost--the abyss is cold, silent and peaceful
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The ultimate measure of a man
is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience,
but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy
---Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr..
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