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hey barb i looked up alloderm on internet and all i found was you could get it to give you fat lips. i laughed so hard reading some of plastic surgeons remarks i had to tell my mutual left-handed nite owl about it. connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb_MSN" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Voice Improvement > Hi Eddy and Carolyn... > > I'm 57 and have had PD for almost 26 years, I had a successful > unilateral pallidotomy (brain surgery on one side of the brain for > relief of PD symptoms in Oct. 1994. > > I had collagen injections into my vocal cords initially performed > by UCLA'S Dr. Gerald Burke with a near perfect return of my > "normal" voice. The injections last from 3 to 6 months, and mine > lasted the whole 6 months and cost me $500. > > I asked Kaiser of they offered this procedure to their patients > and they didn't know if rhey did or not. I called all the Kaiser > facilities in the Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan Area - one > after another as the Kaiser I regularly go to is in Woodland > Hills, CA - till I found ONE that said they did that procedure, > and what's more, the MD who did the collagen injections and been > trained in this procedure Dr. Burke! > > I drove to the Kaiser Metropolitan branch and their MD piddled > around, turning a 5 minute procedure into an HOUR long procedure > that didn't work. And it didn't work the 3 or 4 OTHER times he > tried to do it! AND it didn't work when Dr. Burke did it again! > It seems my body ABSORBED the collagen with 12 hours of getting > it! > > That's my story.... SO FAR. > > Barb Mallut > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddy Arden <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:37 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Improvement > > > >I'm so sorry that I missed the original conversations > >re "Voice Improvement"...My wife, Carolyn, who is 59, > >and who has Parkinsons for 23 years now, desperately > >needs all the help and advice we can get concerning > >this subject. What is this procedure your referring to > >[ foam and gortex ]and how does Kaiser, our HMO also, > >fit into the picture? We would really appreciate > >either Barb or Elizabeth elaborating on this topic. > >Thank you, Listserv > >--- Barb_MSN <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Liz... )Mopping up tears) > >> > >> I'm SOOO happy for you! (Jumping outta chair and > >> dancing wildly > >> 'round living room with joy for ya)) In fact, > >> you've inspired me > >> to call UCLA's Dr. Burke once again to see if HE'S > >> updated his > >> procedure by adding the foam and the gortex. > >> > >> IF he hasn't updated the procedure. THEN, by golly, > >> I'll start > >> working on Kaiser to send me into your part of the > >> world and go > >> for it h that way. > >> > >> YOU GO, GIRL! I salute you... > >> > >> Barb Mallut > >> [log in to unmask] > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Elizabeth Southwood <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]> > >> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:19 PM > >> Subject: Voice Improvement > >> > >> > >> >Barb shared her experiences with working with her > >> voice with us, > >> a great > >> >inspiration to me. Here's what's happened to me so > >> far, with my > >> voice. I > >> >was referred by my ENT doctor to another ENT > >> doctor. This was > >> about a year > >> >ago. He said that because of what he found when he > >> examined me > >> that he > >> >thought he could improve my problem, a Parkinsonian > >> weak, > >> whispery voice, and > >> >also improve my swallowing and breathing. In the > >> meantime I got > >> sick, then > >> >tripped and fractured my hip. By the time I saw > >> him again, about > >> a month > >> >ago, the operations used different and improved > >> materials. > >> > > >> >Yesterday I was given a general anesthetic and my > >> vocal chords > >> were injected > >> >with gel-foam which will be absorbed but meanwhile > >> show me if the > >> procedure > >> >is worth doing on a more permanent basis. My > >> husband is > >> delighted that I > >> >have a voice, an honest to goodness voice again and > >> feels that > >> 'the permanent > >> >procedure' is definitely a go. The final material > >> lasts 2+ > >> years, I think > >> >the doctor said. > >> > > >> >Thanks heavens for this listserve!! This is only > >> one of the > >> things I have > >> >read that has improved my quality of life with this > >> dumb > >> disease -- another > >> >is the two people (one was Rita) who told us about > >> Ecco shoes at > >> Nordstroms > >> >-- they feel great and are cute or good looking > >> too. > >> > > >> >I sang last night and recited some poetry and read > >> some > >> Shakespeare (the > >> >greatest use of English) and read the cooking and > >> garden sections > >> of today's > >> >paper. Even an improvement that's not a cure, I > >> realized, can > >> make a > >> >difference. > >> > > >> >Thank you, Barb, and listserv...Liz S. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ >