Jamie, are you trying to inspire collective suicide in graduate students? after all ' you already got a job and you did the PhD --- I've heard the " teachwriting through reading" stuff at SFU ENGlish, and we get soem of this also through the Liberal education project - especially philsophy of Education via Hirst and R.S. Peters and the 'worthwhile education " folks. I think I will go find a warm bath and slit my wrists. cheerly redundant kathryn ___________________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Alexander, [log in to unmask] Doctoral Candidate, Faculty of Education, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-