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You cannot take religion out of the argument, because at its core is religious beliefs coupled with science on when life begins, for the pro life side. Jen Dad w/ PD 55/39 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sivakoff [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:22 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: stem cells As an avid reader of the group I am disturbed regarding ethical and personal debates. I propose two things, 1- Any religous overtones be taken to a seperate forum called the medical ethics forum of PD 2- That there remains a focus on support and science and the sharing of facts. I am exhausted about reading when a zygote gets a pulse