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BOB and group, With all due respect IMHO your thinking is more "scary" than the procedure being discussed here. Anything that could have helped that child short of taking the life of a fully formed human being should have been tried. I presume from our off-list interchanges in the past that you are against stem cell research. Are you also against IVF. )(in vitro fertilization)? This results of IVF is desperately wanted children as well as the byproduct- embryos which are not used but by no stretch of the imagination can be called human. These are the sources as you well know of stem cells used for most research.. As we have exchanged before off list, I believe that Stem cells have such potential that wasting them for the sake of an embryo- not a person and with no chance of survival independently- is as criminal as some would say discarding the products of in vitro fertilization. is. Every day in spontaneous abortions- or failure of embryo's to implant nature discards unfit fetuses. This is part of nature and- if you will-, God's Plan. Therefore might it also be part of His plan to give us this source of stem cells to use for research. While personally I support the right of a woman to choose- stem cells are not an issue related to abortion and need to be separated in all our minds and those of the politicians from that issue. Otherwise we may delay the inevitable progress that stem cells promise beyond when any of us can benefit from this new and inevitable technology. We need to get Bush and Gore on the record of what they will do with stem cell research before "the Right to LIfer's "provide them erroneous information. I ask all of you who can say that you support stem cell research and consider yourselves "pro-life" to write and point out why stem cell research is also pro life. Charlie At 02:00 PM 10/3/00 -0700, you wrote: >On 3 Oct 00, at 11:28, Jo Ann Coen wrote: > > > So you can see, embryos do not have to be > > "killed", to achieve stem cells. Jo Ann from Houston > >No, they do not; but there are some (perhaps many) people who would >initiate a pregnancy and then abort it to get the stem cells (without the >"liability" of another child). Also, in the above-cited case, what about >the other embryos, which were "discarded" in an effort to find the one >with the proper genetic makeup? > >I think that the whole thing is a bit too scary. > > >Best, > >Bob > > >Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S. >Professional Corporation >2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 >Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA >Phone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 >WWW: <http://www.dovecom.com/rafink> > >"Ex Tristitia Virtus" Charles T. Meyer, M.D. Middleton, WI PD DX 12 years (at age 44) Age 56