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Sandy, I can understand your outrage! I felt terrific when I read Tim's post askng for info to take to WA. I had not posted a response to him because I did not feel that I was knowledgeable enough to benefit the cause. However, you must realize that we do have quite a number of skeptics on the list. I do not condone attacking anyone. With that I will ask that you try to convince Tim and wife to please hang in there. There are some really wonderful caring people on this list. Hugs, Juanita CG for George 74/71/64