i'm back took a day trip to minneapolis to get some encouragement and refocus my life thanks margorie for your off list reality check i'll try to clarify the following "Marjorie L. Moorefield" wrote: > Hi Bill, > Ray was saying last evening ,about the prohibitive cost of such things, > wasn't he? it is expensive -- but, not prohibitive a farm out this way could sell-- for what it would take to set up a lab > > At least I came away with the feeling that yes it was possible, but it > cost so much to store ,and the cost of all the equipment needed would be > prohibitive? > Someone please correct me if I'm wrong ,and I'll dig it out of my other > computer, > and re-read what Ray really said. sorry if it was difficult to grasp i should have greg sterling edit my messages, --they would be crystal clear > > IMOHO, this whole S.2015 is just to give our researchers improved tools as > it were, > so they could proceed faster in their research ,without having to wait for stem > cells to come in from another source, who is not dependent on Federal Funding. > To me the analogy which comes to mind is its like asking someone to dig up > the garden > with a Tablespoon, they will get done, but what year? researchers have been digging with tablespoons for a long time already stem cell potential has been recognised for a long time reagan and bush had repressed stem cell research since the 80's any researcher with cell lines from a questionable source didn't dare thaw and grow cultures for fear of losing not only their own funding...but, instututional funding from NIH since the 80's embroyonic cells were talked of as potential treatment for various medical conditions --just like we talk now but, talk doesn't get the job done or it would be done i'll bet some labs will wait until after the elections before initiating potentially politically controversial projects it has been 20 years already at this rate it could be another 20 i promised myself not to be negative but, i can't put a spin on this, i know from my own experience oh,oh positive spin back in 1986 the human genome project was also a dream but, this year it was completed it has had substantial government funding this knowledge also contains the potential for incredible use or misuse antiquated ethical systems will have problems with this also > > just me, > Marjorie snip .......................................................................... Ray Strand ...on the edge of the prairie abyss ...................... .......................................................................... 48/47 dx/40 ?onset