Tim, You are offended so you decided to drop from PIEN. May I suggest that perhaps those who made offensive statements are, like both you and me, people with parkinson's who due to the multiple neurological drugs we take to control pd symptoms, are often unable to sleep and unable to do alot of stress relieving activities like sports, running, or hobbies since pd inhibits these things. When I get too little sleep, and when I can't do the sports, hobbies, etc that I did B4 PD I find I'm frustrated, angry and easily say unkind things B4 I think of how they might hurt someone. Can you find it in your best interest to forgive and continue to do what you wanted....help others who are dealing with this d - - - disease. And maybe those who spoke B4 thinking how it might sound to others will wait several hours B4 sending a post to over l,000 list members. Sometimes I just write a nasty post to get rid of frustrations, then WAIT to send and when I'm less frustrated, DELETE the post and find I'm relieved I didn't send it!!! Jeanette Fuhr 50/47/44?