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Jo Ann Coen wrote:
>
> There was an article in this morning's Houston Chronicle about a child
> who had a fatal blood disease, and could only be saved by a stem cell
> implant (I'm paraphrasing).  An embryo was grown in a culture by using
> the egg and sperm of her father and mother.  The embryo was implanted in
> the mother and a piece of the embryo was
> used to grow a stem cell.  The little girl had her transplant, and so far
> is doing well.  The mother had a new baby boy, whom she named Adam.  So
> you can see, embryos do not have to be "killed", to achieve stem cells.
> Jo Ann from Houston

yes--
one part of an embryo became a child,
the other was used for stem cell therapy of some sort,
but that part could have become the twin to Adam
Adam II
or Adam III
or Adam IV
or Adam V
etc...
it still had potential
to become a human

and potential is what it is all about

in the early stage of growth,
the embryonic cell mass (16 cells or so)
(not too many divisions--or differentiation starts to happen)
can be sub-divided with chemical or mechanical dissociation...
like subculturing a tissue culture flask (petri dish, whatever)

the university of minnesota was doing that with cows
years ago (i'm vague on exactly when, but, i read about it)
to produce an entire herd of identical cows.
the advantage of that is that a lot of variables are eliminated
between individually unique cows.  if milk production is
different between identical cloned (twin like) cows
--then it is because of what you did to it,(like the way it was fed)
not because one is built genetically  better (or worse)
for milk production than another.

when it comes to humans--
we need to question the potential of the technique.
when is it used responsibly, for a MEDICAL NEED,
and at what point is it not necessary.

would we clone multiple copies of
albert einstein,
mozart
or hitler,
or...
me.........if i needed some spare parts

and --heck-- you don't even need
moms and dads

some gay partners could even
have artificially produced offspring
dads and dads
or moms and moms

and you don't even need couples
with somatic cell cloning

you'll just get a younger you
a little twin

sci-fi is here now
actually its been around a while
we're just gettibg good enough at it in animals
to really consider the potential in humans

once again i've rambled on to long
only scratching the surface

repression (senator brownback)
won't make it go away
research in animals will go on


ray strand

on the edge of the prairie abyss......................