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When we get into discussions like this, I'm reminded many times of Jerry Clower's (a Baptist preacher/comedian, now deceased) story about the man on the roof as the flood waters were rising. All attempts to rescue him were refused with the statement, "No, never mind! The Lord will take care of me!" Later in Heaven, he questioned God as to why he hadn't kept his promise and taken care of him. The Lord replied, "What did you expect, I sent you two boats and a helicopter!" > ---------- > From: Greg Sterling[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: stem cells > > Marjorie, > Are you aware that tens of thousands of human embryos are deliberately > destroyed during the process of IVF? The couple produces several, but > only takes one for the final implant. If you oppose human embryos being > destroyed for research then you must also oppose them being destroyed due > to IVF. > > Maybe stem cell research is also a miracle given to us by God to relieve > our suffering. Or do we get to pick and choose what is God given > depending on how each individual person or church interprets the Bible? > > Greg > 47/35/35 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marjorie L. Moorefield" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: stem cells > > > > At 10:45 AM 10/06/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > > If you do not believe in the Bible then you just go on > > >science alone and voila you have a difference of beliefs! > > > > Jennifer, > > I believed in the Bible before you were even a twinkle in your > > Father's eye, way, way before you were born. > > > > What you are discussing is NOT what the rest of us are discussing. > > > > We are discussing Stem Cell Research, to me IVF is a miracle God gave > > childless couples so they could have their own child , to give a woman, > > who otherwise would never feel the kick of that little foot in her womb, > > to never know the love a Mother develops for a child before she ever > > sees his/her face, this is a miracle brought about by modern science. > > > > > > If we willingly destroy cells, which are left over from this miracle > > because they cannot be used on someone else, and are incapable > > of sustaining life on their own,then , IMOHO, > > we become as the Dog in the Manger, who can't eat the hay, nor digest > it, > > but he lays on top of it and snarls and snaps at any animal who attempts > to > > eat it. > > > > The Bible also states that there is nothing new under the Sun, so I feel > that > > this knowledge to give couples their own child, and if they wish to > donate the > > unused cells for the benefit of mankind all over the world, is also a > gift > > from God. > > I can't imagine a more Charitable gift anyone could give to their fellow > man. > > > > just me, > > Marjorie > > >