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Hey Bill, I'm a Registered Massage Therapist in Ontario and I just wanted to comment a wee bit on what you had to say. You are right that massage can loosen blood clots, but this is only if you have fairly bad varicose veins. With varicose veins there is the possibility of what they call a deep vein thrombosis, or a blood clot lodged deep within the varicose vein. In Canada we are taught a test as part of our training , to determine the existance of a deep vein thrombosis. If blood clots are not a problem then massage is a great way to deal with muscle cramps.................and it feels good too. :O) Peace Pat Bill Olson wrote: > Hi Jeanne and Gordon: > I really commiserate with you; I have had 17 years of a great variety of > symptoms. > none have been terribly painful but they have made me very uncomfortable > much of the time. For a 3-4 year period I had cramps, mostly in the calves > of my legs. They woke me about 5 am and persisted for about an hour ; until > my medications took effect. My wife could relieve them with just lightly > stroking the affected area. > > I have learned that massage can loosen up blood clots which is > potentially lethal. One of my nurse daughters suggested flexing my leg so > my toes point up rather than down. I can usually do this without calling my > wife for help. I usually get very quick relief. > > I still have an occasional cramp, but is more manageable now. I may > have had some help from Permax but never noticed a definite response to any > thing we tried, > Best Wishes, Bill Olson Now 80; dx at 63 > > From: "Jeannie Leroux" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:46 AM > Subject: Leg Cramps > > > My husband, Gordon, is the PWP. He works pretty well through the day > as > > long as he keeps on his medicine schedule. However, at night he has a lot > of > > difficulty getting in and out of bed, using the bathroom, turning over, > and > > adjusting the covers. Many times I have to help him up, cover him up, or > > turn him over. Do other people have difficulty at night, especially in > bed? > > I try to get him to spread his medicine so he has more during the night, > but > > he hates to give up the good part of the day by postponing his medicine. > He > > is on sinemet, mirapex, and selegeline. Also, lately he have been having > > nightly leg cramps. Sometimes they are in the foot, calf, or high up by > the > > buttox in the thigh. It does help when I rub the area. Does anyone have > any > > ideas? > > Jeannie Leroux > > Everett, WA