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Marjorie - As I told you, the squirrels ate my bird seed, etc. I bout my seeds at the local feed store and it is much cheaper. I have a bad knee, so I bought 3 10 pound bags, which was easy for me to handle. Same with the sunflower seeds for the squirrels. One day I went out and saw this blue jay in the squirrel feeder (it was a gallon jar attached to a wooden frame) and he was about to kill himself trying to get out. And he was wet with sweat. I couldn't coax him out, so I finally reached in and picked him up. I said, if he pecks me, he just pecks me. He was too tired to do anything. I put him on the rung of the ladder I built for the squirrels (as if they needed it, but it made the yard look nice), and after a few moments of getting himself together, he flew off. I wonder if he ever "thought" thank you. This may help you save your back and your pocket book. Seeya. Jo Ann