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Frans:
Thanks for the response.    It's been quite an education since my mom's bad
result on the switch from Mirapex to Permax --- you've helped make the
waters a lot less "muddy", I thinks she's finding much the same result with
these meds.     We'll see what tomorrow brings,  I'm confident we can get
things back on track.

Thanks again.   Norm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frans van Duinen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Bad reactions ???


> Hi Norm, I went through Requip/Permax/Bromocriptine/???? this past
> year.  I forget the exact order but in all cases found the side effects
> too much.  But every time I stopped, I noticed that my mobility did not
> seem to return to what it had been even a month or two earlier.
> I cannot say for sure what caused this or even if it is just an
> impression.  I do know that my walking is a lot worse than some 10
> months ago.
>
> I'm back on L-dopa, with Artane and Amantadine to extend the duration
>
> > Norm Leonard wrote:
> >
> > I'm here to ask the expertise of this learned on-line community.
> >
> > My dear mother is a regular "visitor" here for some three years,
> > diagnosed with PD approx. five years ago.     The onset of what I now
> > understand is classic PD showed up as a slight tremor in her right
> > hand, and was first noted in her writing (as a teacher).     By the
> > time of her diagnosis, it had progressed to the obvious tremor and
> > "cogwheel" effect on the right arm and the associated back pain.
> >
> > A short run with Artane proved too much and she stopped after five
> > days, chosing to deal with the tremor instead.    She elected to stay
> > away from the meds until last year (by now PD was affecting the right
> > side, walking balance, and chin/tongue) and started on Requip.
> >
> > Even at near maximum level, no appreciable reduction in arm tremor was
> > acheived (though chin and balance had improved somewhat...), and she
> > was switched to Mirapex (weaned off the old and onto the new, per her
> > PD specialist).
> >
> > Following her last consult with her Winnipeg PD doc and loss of
> > effectiveness of the Mirapex, as of two weeks ago she's made the
> > transition (possibly too fast?) to Pergolide.    This new med (Permax)
> > has
> > been the worst so far.    At the doctors recommended dosage, it's
> > completely knocked her off her game.   Listlessness, back pain,
> > weakness in her legs...     I'm worried enough now about the effect on
> > her morale:   If she's unable to sleep and "recharge" from the effort
> > of the tremor, there's no telling where we'll be in a week.
> >
> > My question(s):    Does anyone recognize this progression in use of
> > the PD meds or does this approach sound at all unusual?    Is Permax
> > typically slow to "kick in" and and start seeing results with?
> > Finally, I have seen much reference to the application of Sinemet
> > either early/late in treatment of PD or in combination with other
> > meds.     Is their a reason they'd commonly hold this med in "reserve"
> > in a case like this?
> >
> > Your thoughts and input would be much appreciated.     My apologies
> > for running so long with this, and thanks very much in advance.
> >
> > Norm Leonard
> > Kenora, ONT.   [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
>
> --
> Frans van Duinen
>      (416) 652-8580
>      Toronto, Ontario
>