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I understand and I agree with you that there are problems to be fixed. What's done is done and there is no way to go back and undo anything that went wrong. We are inperfect human beings and we should continuely try to improve things. We can only work to minimize the chances of the same mistakes or errors happening in the future. What do people want to do, keep voting till everybody likes the result or all the errors are corrected? Hey folks, they are secret ballots and once cast have to be counted as voted. No way to reconnect back to the person who made the mistake, etc. And a revote would be more unfair than the networks forcasting winners before polls further west are closed. What happens to the votes and their effect previously made for the lesser candidates? Those voters would now have the opportunity to switch, knowing in advance what the effect could be? Changing the subject a little. There is such a hoopla about popular vote. That is as totally meaningless as deciding who is elected by whose wife weighs the most. We are a Republic not a Democracy and anyone who doesn't know the difference shouldn't be participating in the election process in the first place. We are a Federation of States, whence the name United States of America. People do not elect the President, by our Constitution, the states do, and it is up to each state to survey/poll their citizens using laws they have established to determine who they are going to vote for to represent them in the Executive Branch. Here a comment I received from someone yesterday: "I hope this experience gets MANY people reading or re-reading the Constitution and marveling at how those white-wigged old fogies NAILED it down. A high percentage of "reforms" since then have only muddled things further. This seems to me to be true in spades of the Electoral College. If it ain't busted, don't fix it!" The problems are at the local levels, not the national. Maybe there needs to be some uniformity as to election laws, etc., but I personally don't want a change in our Constitution. It has survived for over 200 years. If it can't survive this, then we don't deserve to survive. People wringing their hands and getting hysterical about the fact we don't yet have a President-Elect need to realize that the country and government is still in existance. Regardless of which side you are on, and regardless of you feelings about Clinton, we still have a sitting President and he will serve till January 20th. It's over. The people have spoken. We just don't know what they said yet. Getting off my soapbox! Thanks for your attention. Darwin > ---------- > From: Marjorie L. Moorefield[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:24 AM > Subject: Re: (fwd) RALLY IN PALM BEACH > > Sorry Darwin, > This is Florida, and it isn't easy to get an absentee ballot > down here. Also down here the Haitian-Americans and Latin-Americans > and many other nationalities who have trouble reading English, > were not allowed assistance from anyone, and many of them > were told they had run out of ballots, so they were denied > their right to vote, and if you ruined one, you were not allowed > to have another ballot. > > In some of the areas, because of the DOT, there were barracades > in front of polling places. > This flap is not as simple as it seems!!! > I haven't read in the newspaper, nor seen on TV, anything > these people were saying that I don't know it to be true. > > If I were one of the persons in Palm Beach County who's vote > was tossed out, and I had asked for a new ballot and had been > denied one, you'd hear me screaming clear in Wichita. > > just me, > Marjorie > 68/58/55 > > > > > > > > At 09:41 AM 11/10/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >While I agree that the polls should have the proper accessibility, this > >argument falls a little flat when it is so easy to just vote absentee > ballot > >in the comfort of your own home with assistance from a family member or > >trusted friend. Not to mention more time to read and understand all the > >sometimes lengthy legalese questions on the ballot. > > > >An additional fact. By law, anyone who needs assistance with casting > their > >vote may have someone go in with them or request any official at the > >polling place to help them. > > > ---------- > > > From: Bonnie Rowley[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:09 PM > > > Subject: (fwd) RALLY IN PALM BEACH > > > > > > I got this from another list & thought I'd pass it on. > > > Bonnie > > > daughter of Jim 80/72 > > > * * * > > > Live well * Laugh often * Love much > > > (Smiling PARKies Live Easier) > > > Join SPARKLE > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > > IN THIS SPECIAL ISSUE: > > > > > > > > > > > > DISABILITY COMMUNITY TO RALLY IN PALM BEACH OVER INACCESSIBILITY > > > > > > > > Rally - Friday, 10 AM, Palm Beach County Governmental Center > > > > > > > > Just a few wheelchairs unable to get to the polls can change the > way > > > > our country is governed! Your one (1) vote is very important .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Smith, host of the nationally syndicated radio talk show "On A > > > Roll > > > > Talk Radio on Life & Disability" is in route to Palm Beach, > Florida > > > to > > > > speak at a rally in support of accessibility in voting. The rally > will > > > > be held on Friday, November 10 at 10:00 AM at the Palm Beach County > > > > Governmental Center, 301 North Olive Avenue in West Palm Beach. A > large > > > > turnout of disability community members is expected. > > > > > > > > As the world watches the recount of the ballots in Florida, Smith > and > > > > local disability community members in South Florida will raise the > > > issue > > > > of the importance of total access at the polls. They will deliver > > > > statistics about the barriers that people with disabilities face in > > > > casting their votes. > > > > > > > > 54 million Americans fit the definition of disabled, which means > any > > > > person with a physical or mental condition which substantially > limits > > > > one or more of life's major activities. > > > > > > > > "The butterfly ballot represents a convergence of disability and > senior > > > > issues, and for both populations, this type of inaccessibility is a > > > > violation of our most fundamental right as Americans," says Smith. > > > > > > > > "This ballot stepped over the bounds of being inaccessible to > people > > > > with disabilities, but even so, I question how many people with > > > > traumatic brain injuries, dyslexia, visual impairments and other > > > > conditions voted incorrectly and don't even realize it," he said. > > > > > > > > "We want a clear, understandable ballot to be developed and for all > > > > people in Palm Beach County who voted to have the opportunity to > vote > > > > again," said Shelly Gottsagen, Executive Director of the Coalition > for > > > > Independent Living. > > > > > > > > The rally is being organized by On A Roll and the Coalition for > > > > Independent Living Options, the Center for Independent Living in > West > > > > Palm Beach. There are over 400 Centers for Independent Living in > the > > > > United States which provide advocacy, peer support, independent > living > > > > skills training, and information and referall to people with > > > > disabilities. > > > > > > > > WAPD strongly supports this rally and urges you to participate in > any > > > > manner that you can. Join the fight in Florida! The WAPD Florida > state > > > > chapter will be heavily supporting this rally. > > > > > > > > WHAT ABOUT VOTING ACCESSIBILITY IN EVERY STATE?!?! > > > > > > > > Now is the time to be heard! > > > > ______________________________________ > > > > > > > >