Juanita - John C. just wrote me a note and appeared to be very frustrated. No matter - it's been a full moon for 5 days. Anyway, I told him I didn't think I'd ever get off, so I didn't save any of the postings. However, someone was kind enough to send me instructions on all 4 of the lists I'm on, so I printed them and put them in a manila folder like you did, and they are in my file cabinet. As I told him, my circumstances appear to be changing and I may need to get off early next year. I won't need to learn anymore about PD, PSP, CDGD,. and CG. Best wishes, JO Ann