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Well Barb knight.. as eloquent as usual and straight to the point of how all of the list is a family. I agree do not leave the list Sharon we need people as you are just as much as anyone and maybe more...Any research that helps one pwp helps us all to battle both pd and cd. JoAnn already knows how I feel about her and so does my friend Barb about her:) Love to all, * seattle* Audrey friend of a few plwp but especially one aussie John