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hi all from what i've been learning about how our minds and egos work, in re characteristics which we think we see in ourselves and which we do not like, we tend to deny their existence in us, and see them and/or look for them in others instead i.e. 'project them onto' others, as a means of separating ourselves from the despised characteristics completely irrational of course but our egos are not known for rationality only for self protection the catch here is imho that the despised characteristic which we think we see in ourselves isn't there it doesn't exist it is an illusion projecting it onto others and attacking it there is much the same boxing match with shadows as hating it and attacking it in ourselves we have made these nightmares for ourselves they did not come with the package which is fully and unconditionally guaranteed flawless janet janet paterson, an akinetic rigid subtype parkie 53 now /44 dx cd / 43 onset cd /41 dx pd / 37 onset pd TEL: 613 256 8340 SMAIL: POBox 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada EMAIL: [log in to unmask] URL: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/