Hi all, On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, "Marjorie L. Moorefield" wrote: >If we could just have one for "Just for Parkies", >I'd gladly volunteer. >Just me, The only way to have a list "Just for Parkies" is to have the administrator monitor subscription requests and only approve those determined to be a PWP. But, even that wouldn't be enough. Human nature being what it is, along with the fact that no two people are going to have the same, thoughts, ideas, and opinions, people are going to have differences. These differences are go- ing to turn into arguments, and (sometimes) a fight (flame-war) -- even between fellow "Parkies." Once some 'Netizens figure out that the only thing separating them from others in cyber-space is a wire and some distance, they get a little more courageous. So, the semi-anonymity provided by the keyboard and monitor, gives most people a sense of courage to say things they might not say in real-life. The only way to deal with this anonymous-courage is to moderate the list. Let the moderator decide what gets posted and what doesn't. Then, it only gets worse. I've seen people who feel that they have been cyber-slighted, quickly find out about proxy servers, anonymous re-mailers, and the like. And then use the technology to lurk, watch for an "opening," and then start getting their cy- ber-revenge. (I'll admit I am describing a worst case scenario, but ...) It's a no-win situation. The only thing that I have ever seen have any effect follows the old saw: "Ignore it and it will go away." And, that is why most e-mail client software have "filters" in them these days. You just put the e-mail address of the culprit in your filter- list and it gets filtered out from your incoming mail stream and you never see it (with any luck). I've been on the 'Net now for some seven or eight years. And, in that time-frame, I've been on more than my share of mailing lists. No matter what the topic, they all have their good times and their bad times, as someone recently described, like a sine- wave. And, as I've described before, it's the inherent character or basic constitution (natue) of something formidably difficult to control or deal with (the beast). My $0.02 for the quarter. TIFWIW. IMO. YMMV ... Bill-- ...who says "If you can change your thoughts you can change the world." ___ .. William A. Parrette ...... 7177 Heritage Drive ....+--- ()__() - (42!)+ .. [log in to unmask] .............. Westchester ............| ( oo ) ,-' | .. [log in to unmask] ......... OH 45069-4012 ..........| /^' *'^\ / | .. [log in to unmask] ..... 513/779-0780 ...........| (/( . )\) | .............. http://w3.one.net/~wap/ ...............+--- Q/--\Q -------+ Mailing Lists and Light Bulbs -- A Simile -- Question: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? Answer: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers. 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inapprop- riateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb. 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.