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Hi all,

        On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, "Marjorie L. Moorefield" wrote:

>If we could just have one for "Just for Parkies",
>I'd gladly volunteer.
>Just me,

        The  only way to have a list "Just for Parkies" is to have the
     administrator monitor  subscription  requests  and  only  approve
     those determined to be a PWP.  But, even that wouldn't be enough.
     Human nature being what it is, along with the fact  that  no  two
     people are going to have the same, thoughts, ideas, and opinions,
     people are going to have differences.  These differences are  go-
     ing  to turn into arguments, and (sometimes) a fight  (flame-war)
     -- even between fellow "Parkies."

        Once some 'Netizens figure out that the only thing  separating
     them from others in cyber-space is a wire and some distance, they
     get a little more courageous.  So, the semi-anonymity provided by
     the keyboard and monitor, gives most people a sense of courage to
     say things they might not say in real-life.  The only way to deal
     with  this  anonymous-courage  is  to moderate the list.  Let the
     moderator decide what gets posted and what doesn't.

        Then, it only gets worse.  I've seen people who feel that they
     have  been  cyber-slighted, quickly find out about proxy servers,
     anonymous re-mailers, and the like.  And then use the  technology
     to lurk, watch for an "opening," and then start getting their cy-
     ber-revenge.  (I'll admit I am describing a worst case  scenario,
     but ...)

        It's a no-win situation.

        The  only  thing that I have ever seen have any effect follows
     the old saw: "Ignore it and it will go away."  And, that  is  why
     most  e-mail  client  software have "filters" in them these days.
     You just put the e-mail address of the culprit  in  your  filter-
     list  and it gets filtered out from your incoming mail stream and
     you never see it (with any luck).

        I've been on the 'Net now for some seven or eight years.  And,
     in that time-frame, I've been on more than my  share  of  mailing
     lists.   No matter what the topic, they all have their good times
     and their bad times, as someone recently described, like a  sine-
     wave.  And, as I've described before, it's the inherent character
     or basic constitution (natue) of something  formidably  difficult
     to control or deal with (the beast).

        My $0.02 for the quarter. TIFWIW. IMO. YMMV ...

Bill--
  ...who says "If you can change your thoughts you can change the world."
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                              Mailing Lists
                             and Light Bulbs
                             -- A  Simile --

Question: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
          to change a light bulb?

Answer:   1,331:

              1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
                list that the light bulb has been changed.

             14 to share similar experiences of changing light
                bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
                changed differently.

              7 to caution about the dangers of changing light
                bulbs.

             27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts
                about changing light bulbs.

             53 to flame the spell checkers.

            156 to write to the list administrator complaining
                about the light bulb discussion and its inapprop-
                riateness to this mail list.

             41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.

            109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
                to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb.

            203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
                alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
                light bulbs be stopped.

            111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
                all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are**
                relevant to this mail list.

            306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is
                superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what
                brand of light bulbs work best for this technique,
                and what brands are faulty.

             27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different
                light bulbs.

             14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and
                to post corrected URLs.

              3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are
                relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant
                to this list.

             33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them
                including all headers and footers, and then add "Me
                Too."

             12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
                because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey.

             19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."

              4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.

              1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.

             47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was
                meant for, leave it here.

            143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.