Hi all, On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, in the digest, Robert A. Fink wrote: > ... > and neither did I object to humor, as long as the "humor" was not > sexist, racist, ageist, or otherwise inconsiderate of others. Humor does > not have to be hurtful to others in order to be "funny" ... As much as I tend to agree with Dr. Fink, the text quoted above reminded me of a passage from one of my favorite books: Stranger In a Strange Land, Robert A. Heinlen Part Three: His Eccentric Education Chapter XXIX Location: San Francisco Zoo Premise: Mike, the human raised by Martians, has never laughed. (Read the word "grok" as "understand very thoroughly.") ------------------------------------------------------------------ ... They stood in front of a cage containing a family of ca- puchins, watching them eat, sleep, court, nurse, groom, and swarm aimlessly around, while Jill tossed them peanuts. She tossed one to a monk; before he could eat it a larger male not only stole his peanut but gave him a beating. The little fellow made no attempt to pursue his tormentor; he pounded his knuckles against the floor and chattered helpless rage. Mike watched solemnly. Suddenly the mistreated monkey rushed across the cage, picked a monkey still smaller, boweled it over and gave it a drubbing worse than the one he suffered. The third monk crawled away, whimpering. The other monkeys paid no attention. Mike threw back his head and laughed -- and went on laughing uncontrollably ... continued to chuckle, laugh aloud, chuckle again, while she wiped his eyes, all the minutes it took to get home ... ... "Mike, what happened?" "Jill ... I grok people! ... Come here ... put your head on my shoulder and tell me a joke." "Just tell you a joke?" "... Tell me a joke I've never heard and see if I laugh at the right place. I will, I'm sure of it -- and I'll tell you why it's funny. Jill ... I grok people! ... They laugh because it hurts ... because it's the only thing that'll make it stop hurt- ing ... That poor little monk." "Which one, dear? I thought that big one was just mean ... and the one I flipped the peanut to turned out to be just as mean. There certainly wasn't anything funny." "Jill ... Of course it wasn't funny; it was tragic. That's why I had to laugh. I looked at a cageful of monkeys and sudden- ly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I've seen and heard and read about in the time I've been with my own people -- and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laugh- ing." "But -- Mike dear, laughing is what you do when something is nice ... not when it's horrid." "Is it? Think back to Las Vegas -- When you girls came out on stage, did people laugh?" "Well, no." "But you girls were the nicest part of the show. I grok now, that if they had laughed, you would have been hurt. No, they laughed when a comic tripped over his feet and fell down ... or something else that is not a goodness." "But that's not *all* people laugh at." "Isn't it? ... find me something that makes you laugh, sweet- heart ... a joke, anything -- but something that gave you a belly laugh, not a smile. Then we'll see if there isn't a wrongness somewhere -- and whether you would laugh if the wrongness wasn't there." He thought. "I grok when apes learn to laugh, they'll be people." ... Doubtfully but earnestly Jill started digging into her memory for jokes that had struck her as irresistably funny, ones which had jerked a laugh out of her: "-- her entire bridge club." ... "Should I bow?" ... "Neither one, you idiot -- *instead*!" ... "-- the Chinaman objects" ... "-- broke her leg." ... "-- make trouble for *me*?" ... "-- but it'll spoil the ride for me." ... "-- and his mother-in-law fainted." ... "Stop you? I bet three to one you could do it!" ... "-- something has happened to Ole." ... "-- and so are you, you clumsy ox!" She gave up on "funny" stories, pointing out such were just fantasies, and tried to recall real incidents. Practical jokes? All practical jokes supported Mike's thesis, even ones as mild as a dribble glass ... What else? The time Elsa Mae lost her panties? It hadn't been funny to Elsa Mae. Or the -- She said grimly, "Apparently the pratt fall is the peak of all humor. It's not a pretty picture of the human race, Mike." "... I had thought -- I had been told -- that a 'funny' thing is a thing of goodness. It isn't. Not ever is it funny to the person it happens to. ... The goodness is in the laughing. I grok it is a bravery ... and a sharing ... against pain and sor- row and defeat." "But -- Mike, it is not a goodness to laugh *at* people." "No. But I was not laughing at the little monkey. I was laughing at *us*. People. And suddenly I knew I was people and could not stop laughing ... things that *do* happen on Mars which we laugh at here on Earth aren't funny because there is no wrongness about them. Death, for example." "Death isn't funny." "Then why are there so many jokes about death? ... death is so sad that we *must* laugh at it. All those religions -- they con- tradict each other on every other point but each one is filled with ways to help people be brave enough even though they know they are dying." ... ------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm not much of a jokester myself -- I don't laugh a lot. I try to use humor when I teach in the classroom -- I'm not very good at it; people tell me my humor is dry. Every time I read the passage above, I pause to think if I can remember something that I thought was funny that didn't contain a "wrongness" somewhere in it. I have not been successful. And, for the most part, I tend to agree with the character Mike above in that almost every joke I can think of or that I have heard was sexist, racist, ageist, or otherwise inconsiderate of someone or group of others. It seems to me that humor almost always is hurtful to someone, somewhere, some place, some others, or something. And, it is 'funny' -- it makes us laugh -- to help us deal with the pain that would otherwise occur. Just some off-topic food for thought. And, as I have been known to say here and in other forums, may you always grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who thinks that life is a yo-yo and mankind ties knots in the string. ///// (42?) .. William A. Parrette ...... 7177 Heritage Drive ....+--- [ o o ] / ----+ .. [log in to unmask] .............. Westchester ............| \_=_/ | .. [log in to unmask] ......... OH 45069-4012 ..........| _| |_ | .. [log in to unmask] ..... 513/779-0780 ...........| / \_/ \ | .............. http://w3.one.net/~wap/ ...............+--oOOO---OOOo-----+