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Katie W I happen to be one of the female caretakers posting about my husbands falls. You neglected to include the fact that my reason for posting this was in response to one of our oldests members request for enbarassing humor PD experiences The incident did not involve injury. Also I stated in the post that both my PWP and myself frequently laugh through these trying times.. I have been a member of this list for quite sometime and have never before felt unwelcome. If you find that you want only facts and to correspond with only PWPs then perhaps this list should become ONLY PWP , no caregivers or family members allowed. If this is the case I do wish someone would tell us lowly caregivers that this is the intention of this list. My humble apologies for posting my cares my opinions and my love on YOUR list! Juanita CG for George 74/71/64