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Bob, You know Bob, I wasnt intending to reply to what I considered an unfair assumption on your part that an old saying that included the perfectly understood word meaning a "shovel" was intended differently. Instead I am asking again, why is the original intent buried under someone's new idea that it was meant in the way you see it? I would be surprised if anyone on this list automatically jumped to the same idea that you did. Now what does this say about prejudice Bob? I read too and yet I do understand how to use the dictionary when it is necessary to be up to date. If there was any slur at all in a saying that predates the word that you implied, then I would always agree with your premise, but it wasnt and never would be not from me at least. *seattle* audrey *seattle* audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: " Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Non PD: An idea whose time has come > Date sent: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:55:11 -0800 > Send reply to: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network <[log in to unmask]> > From: audrey skrzyniarz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Non PD: An idea whose time has come > To: [log in to unmask] > > > This isnt directed at any person on the list in particular, it is in > > response after reflection in order to think what to say. For the life > > of me I can not figure out how a commonly used expression changed into > > something that some would think has political incorrect connotations. > > It isnt the way I was raised to imply or to make any slurs against any > > group or person. I wonder how innocent fun can suddenly be translated > > into something less and become a soap box once more? Why would any > > one look so deeply for hidden intent when none exists nor was > > intended? Maybe it is time to stop and think of what some of us are > > here for besides medical information which is available many places > > outside of this list. Isnt this list partly social, a meeting of like > > minds that are friendly at least in therory? It is possible to find > > anything one looks for in all things that transpires between two > > people. I do appreciate your post however Roger, and in case you might > > wonder about americans, I was always taught to use a dictionary when > > one needs to know a word and its usage ... > > > > * seattle * audrey > > friend of my pwp aussie john 40/42/38? > > Because one person's "fun" makes it "acceptable" for people to > ridicule, put down, generalize, and otherwise promote negative > attitudes about other people. It doesn't matter if it is: > > blondes=stupidity > Polish people=polacks > Jewish people=kikes > males=insensitive > females="gold-diggers" > > These "jokes" are not "funny" to those people who have been > insulted and ridiculed in the past. They do not belong on a public List. > > > Best, > > Bob > > > ********************************************** > Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C. > 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 > Berkeley, California 94704-2636 > Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 > WWW: http://www.rafink.com/ > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > "Ex Tristitia Virtus" > > ********************************************* >