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David Meigs wrote: > I had a feeling I was not alone. One point most of you have not mentioned is does your bodies have the normal "chiver reflex"? My body tries....... but can't. > > It's not uncomfortable...... it's painful ..... but not really pain in the "hit your thumb with a hammer" > sense of the word. I freeze.... and it seems like it is impossible to think beyond "I must get warm". David, I am still able to shiver. In fact, I have a tendency to shiver uncontrollably when I get cold. It is not painful, but it is extremely uncomfortable. Dave Bergford 59 now / 58 dx. / 55 onset [log in to unmask]