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Dr. Fink, I am sorry that you are removing yourself from the list. I have said it before: you are one of the few rational voices on this list. And you are a doctor and you bring that expertise to the list. A needed expertise. The past few weeks have been particularly dismal on the list,and with namecalling, and at you. I don't know who these people are on the list, but some of them seem more than ready to say something that hurts others and then to say, without any apology, that it was the PD talking and that we all ought to tolerate it. And, while demanding that we tolerate/respect them, those same people show that they do not tolerate or respect differences in others or differences of opinion in others. And, then they announce that they will leave the list (YES!), but they will never leave the list because they have nowhere to go. I have not been participating in the list as the quality of the interactions has gone lower and lower. I did think it interesting that these people, who I would label as "intolerant," quickly resorted to namecalling when anyone said anything that they did not like. I thought that it was very clear that these people cannot run the list and they cannot maintain any quality of interaction on the list. That lull period near to and during the holidays gave the "intolerants" a forum. They were fighting among themselves, and namecalling, on Christmas Day! Things have to change or the list will evaporate. Finally, Barbara Patterson is going to do something. I don't know what she is going to do, and I do not know what the impact on the list will be. I suspect that we, the people on the list, will have to make the needed changes. I hope that the list will have the quality of interaction that it had a few months ago, and then I hope everyone strives for better and better quality. If this list is to be rehabilitated, quality people like yourself need to participate on the list. If you remove yourself, there will be a big hole, and I don't see where anyone else can replace you. I would ask that you wait and see for a while. See if there are any changes for the better. I think that the namecalling and the disrespect toward you are coming from a very small number of individuals; and it seems to me to be very inappropriate. And, I am sure many others think that it is inappropriate as well. FYI, there is a very specific way to remove yourself from the list; I think it involves a blank e-mail and a one-word command. They are very picky as to how you get on and then get off this list. Happy New Year? Katie