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thanks to all who've sent info. And to the upteen friends who've threatened me if I don't start backing stuff up to disks... well, I was going to get around to it but....Just a quick update to all I'm behind writing/replying to. Janine and I've taken new jobs delivering papers -we are working from about 2am until 11 or 12, then doing all the stuff we need to get done in the daylight, paperwork etc, and with this system losing it's mind (do computers get Altzhimers? this thing has def. got a case of dementia cause it had no memory left) things have been hectic to say the least. I was notified yesterday that our local paper is doing a feature on us/pd/voices from the parking lot etc, and should be out next week. I tend to doubt the Vernon Co Broadcaster is online, so if it's a good article, I'll just buy an extra run of their papers. anyway, that is about all that's happening here, thanks again for all the help. bob aka tex