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I wasn't going to stick my neck out and get involved in this fray, but those of you that know me realize that is not possible.  What a patronizing bunch of horsesh--!!  Those of you that feel it necessary to kick someone when they're down had better remember the old proverb, "It's a long road that doesn't have a turn in it."  It disgusts and sickens me to see a PWP treat another in such a callous fashion.  If you don't want to hear about others problems then don't read their posts.  We need to band together as one, especially in light of the new hostile political environment we now face concerning stem cell research.

If it comes from the heart of a PWP there is no such thing as a NON-PD post.  Everything one does is directly or indirectly influenced by this disease..

Hang in there Ivan.  You do have a large group that support you and care about your well being.

Greg
48/35/35

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kees Paap" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Non PD ... Ivan Suzman


> Dear Listfriends,
> 
> I deeply apologize for taking your precious time.  To avoid more loss of
> your valuable time, I  have taken this to the Non PD  subjects.  I promise
> you that the next time I will use the Non PD subject right away.
> 
> 
> My dear friend Ivan,
> 
> 
> This will be my only and last reaction to you on the listserver.  If there
> are any follow-up reactions than I will send you these off list, to your
> private e-mail address. I don't want this to be  a burden for the list. Only
> if the circumstances require a repeated explanation for the entire list, I
> will discuss with you about your abilities and disabilities. It will be as a
> Non PD subject.
> 
> As far as I now are capitals used to show that someone is yelling. Are you
> yelling at me, my friend? Out of bounds? In what way?
> 
> Maybe you are right, maybe I am too hard on you, but you are so whining all
> the time. More dignity and selfcontrol would suit you well.
> 
> You did write about the "peeing and pooping", I read it again.
> 
> No, my dear friend, my brains are in perfect condition, as far as they can
> be for a  Parkinson Patient. I keep them in good shape, like I do with  my
> body.
> 
> Are you really threatening me? Are you the one who decides who has
> priviliges and who not?  I  don't think so. Neither am I !!  And when we
> will be judged at the end of our lives, I will have to humble myself and ask
> for forgiveness for my letters to you. I know you Ivan, we have looked each
> other in the eyes. I remember that moment very well.
> 
> A few last words to you, Ivan, yes I am  talking to  you my friend. I
> sincerely apologize, if I have said things that were  not true, but for the
> rest I don't. You may cope better than I think,  now I think about it, you
> probably cope much better than  I think.You probably think that I cope very
> badly, but I don't know so I won't comment on that.
> 
> Take care my friend, or  better start taking care of yourself,
> 
> warm greetings to y'all,
> 
> Kees Paap
>