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Hey Murray, You are talking about all the free anti-virus software etc....that is available, how about free Internet, are you paying for your ISP? Just curious, I can't believe how many people are paying for Internet service, 22 million to AOL etc.... As you can see from my addr I am using NETZERO. as in ZERO cost for their Internet service. It has been working fine for me for about two years now. I have made this known to the list a couple of times, but I don't think many of the list members have taken advantage of it. Lanier Maddux Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary