Bill: we're not there yet your questions are valid > William Taggart wrote: > > Dear Janet & list mates: > > I am very optimistic about stem cell research..... but.... some of these > articles bring some underlying questions to mind: > > Do we know what actually kills our natural brain cells in the first > place? there is some new info coming about genes that promote or inhibit apoptosis there also seems like a lot of "triggers" that can initiate apoptosis a fundamental understanding is needed coupled with proper growth factors--and there are a few out there in the proper sequence or we're playing with tumorgenic factors i'm not in a hurry to implant a potential hydatidiform mole in my brain and now it seems that the stem cells may need a micro-environment surrounded by the right kinds of cells to promote robust survival > If not, what's to prevent the new stem cells from dying a similar death > soon after being implanted in the same environment? > some long term survival study will will be fun waiting for and then to find out what is really in there takes an autopsy > Using chemicals to induce P&D-like symptoms in test animals does not > create the environment that's killing the cells in the first place. this makes sense the models are not perfect but, they are informative and now there are several models but, some models of pd are about an insult or accumulated insults that trigger apoptosis which keeps going such as oxidative damage--iron (ferritin imbalance), manganese, other metals or that iron gene that was recently used in knockout mice heck, rotenone, diazinone and other insecticides glutamate hyperactivity parkin gene in juvenile parkinsons copper metabolism as seen in Wilson disease some tropical fruits mitochondrial mutation in a subset those abnormal alpha-synuclein protein deposits--cause or effect? the puzzle is not solved > > Don't get me wrong! I still want to be among the first to get a stem cell > implant! I'm just trying to get my self up to speed on the state of the > art.....;-) i know how you feel time for a trip to the library for the details from the full articles tissue culture gets me excited > > Luv t'all, > > Bill - PWP > New Joisey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snip >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sci-fi tangent anybody a fan of Orson Scott Card? in "Xenocide" one of his characters - Marco has parkinsonian features from a run in with an energy fence he is slow and clumsy but still very intelligent living in a body he despises it is interesting that he doesn't have access to a futuristic cure but he does have a helpful relationship to a sentient computer that assists him with commnication why do i like this book? Ray Strand Prairie Sky Design -----------------( on the Edge of the Prairie Abyss )--------------- when the sky is clear the ground is visible 49/dx PD 2 yrs/40? onset/retired