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Sid - have you asked "them"? If you are referring to the sight I shared with the list, this is one that I randomly picked after surfing for "other stem cell sources". I even started to make a comment about the, loosely translated "murder" statement. I don't agree with their sentiment at all but I thought - this is way beyond what I want to deal to a group of PWP's. So I was hoping that the final paragraph that I highlighted in red was the key - that there are alternatives to stem cell sources. The point can be argued till we're all blue in the face. The result? ... we'll all be blue in the face. I will never be able to change the mind of someone who feels very morally right about their pro-life stance. They will never change my mind. The two shall meet and there will be no happy medium until attitude's change. It will take some strong, insightful individual that can sort out the happy medium so that all can live comfortably with. When am I my brother's keeper? Never? Sometimes? All of the time? Even when s/he has aked me not to be? I, for one, am my own keeper and protector. I too ask not to be protected from myself - just from others. Now I have to balance this with being part of a community and the world as a whole... I gotta get to work! Pat CG for PWP -----Original Message----- From: Sid Levin <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Monday, April 02, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Statement against "killing" fertilized eggs (embryos)as big as this period. In a message dated 4/1/01 7:29:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Focus on the Family Statement on Human Embryo Stem Cell Research >> I understand why Focus on the Family is opposed to human embryo research, but please explain, why they are also opposed to invitro fertilization and their forebearers were opposed to birth control. After all, your organization and its kissing cousins, killed the State Departments financial aid for birth control instructions in the third world. And at one time, many years ago, when I was in college, I debated on "Resolved that it should be made legal to sell birth control devices." My opponent (maybe it was you), compared birth control to murder. To the younger people reading this: It was actually a criminal offense to teach birth control in this country, thanks to dedicated protectors of "FAMILY." Sid Levin PS I don't like abortion, I am a grandfather of five and I think the population explosion is the ultimate doomsday scenario. There are more living people on the earth today then lived on this planet for the past ten thousand years. This space ship is getting very crowded. I love all of you, but I'm darn tired of my protectors! Sid ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn