Janet, I thought of the same thing, and I do intend to do some legal research when I get to a law library. I may try to do the research on the internet, but I am not very comfortable with the internet. When I was still working and the State of Wisconsin was intent on making the attorneys computer saavy partially as a means to hold down secretarial costs (which was odd since we (the attorneys) cost more and the State was adding "secretarial duties" onto us and then hiring more attorneys??) We were first trained on Macintoshes, and then we were shifted to IBM compatibles and windows because the rest of the state government was using IBM or IBM compatibles and the governor (Tommy Thompson at the time) did not want the State Public Defender to be the only agency to have Macintoshes--by the way, $2 million of the people's money was budgeted to change us over to IBM and the actual cost was over $1million. And there was no reason for the change. By this time I was diagnosed, and my boss here in Green Bay was (overly) concerned about making or providing accommodations for me. I left my office one day, and when I came back the next day there was a new IBM compatible on my computer table. I could not get the mouse to work; I could not get it to click. We were all, attorneys, investigators, paralegals, secretaries, etc., required to go to these training sessions, and we were sent to this classroom where we each had our own computer. The teacher and the instruction materials were provided by a private company, and we were supposed to follow her as she went through these exercises. I couldn't click the mouse, and I was holding everybody up, i.e. the teacher. The investigator from Appleton was next to me, he tried to help me by opening the program to change the settings on the mouse, he would hold the mouse and have me click it, he would show me how to use the keyboard commands rather than the mouse, and then finally he just clicked it so I could stay with the rest of the class. The teacher did not like any of that; she complained and complained. I did tell her that I had Parkinson's Disease, that I had tremors in my hands, and that I could not work this mouse. This woman is prowling around behind me, complaining; she is prowling around all the rows, but more and more she comes to stand behind me. I am not saying a word, I am very, very stressed and she is angry, and I do not understand why she is so angry, but I know she is angry and she is escalating. She is getting angrier and angrier, and she does not like it that I, and now the other people in the room, my co-workers, are saying to her that I can't work the mouse because I have this disability. She stands behind me and she starts to yell. I can't move even if I wanted to, and I am afraid, I am afraid that she is going to be violent, I am closest to her and I am her target. We have three investigators in our region, and they are all former police officers; all three came over and pushed themselves between her and me. I am busy thanking God. And she is busy still yelling at them, yelling and yelling at them and at me. I don't remember very much after that: my investigators got me outside and sent me to have lunch. All of us, sans the teacher, have lunch together. Everybody is very supportive and protective of me. I do notice that people are making phone calls, lots of phone calls, and having conversations away from the table. I do not want to go back to that room, but I am basicly given a direct order to go back. I am flanked by the investigators, they give me a computer by the door, one of them produces a powerball, hooks it up in place of the mouse, and helps me until I can get it to click. I am now ready. The teacher is not there, and she does not come. We have a new teacher. Somehow the people in my region over lunch contacted Madison and Madison contacted the private company and the company discharged the teacher: Wow! Who says state government does not work. Her behavior was described and It was mentioned that she had anger issues, and that there had been complaints about her from the training sessions in other regions, but the official reason for her discharge was discrimination based upon disability or handicap during the training session in Green Bay. * * * * * * * * * * * * I thought that part of the problem I had in using the computer was the size of the keys on the keyboard: I hit the wrong keys. my fingers slide off the right key and hit something else, etc. Some days it is o.k., but other days, I can't type anything. Calculators and telephones have big numbers; I thought there naturally should be keyboards with big keys. My investigator did a search of the internet and all he could find was this weblike thing which held the keys but there was no difference in the size. I called several companies, and the reaction was mean and/or derisive: like who would want that or need that? One guy said that the keyboard was a standard size and that, if the size of the keys were changed, the whole thing would have to be changed. I said why not, why not make the keyboard bigger. The guy says you, the handicapped person, would not be able to use it because it would be too big and too far for your fingers to go. Yah? I don't think so. We could try it. Once it was established that the keyboard was standard, I started to ask what type of accommodations these companies could make for me or provide for me so that it would be easier for me to use the computer: the answer was always none in the end. When I shopped around for my own personal computer last year, I did not care about gigabites and all that stuff, I asked about accommodations for disabled/handicapped people, my big key question--and the answer was still none, no accommodations. And I thought this was so strange, that these companies should have a responsibility, maybe even a legal responsibility, to provide accommodations for us. I don't see why the ADA and other laws cannot be stretched to cover the issues you have raised Janet. And, at some point, I will research this, and I will let you know what I find, what I decide. This is longer than I intended--I have to leave soon to go to my mom's house for Easter or she will send out a posse, Happy Easter, Happy Chocolate, Katie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn