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Thanks to all. I really want that information and the next neuro (only one has ) that pats me on the head and says I don't really want to know is in real trouble (as soon as I can think up some) Care givers are neither very young nor dumb and don't like to be treated as if they are. Thanks, Nita I get more help off line here than any place. Thank all of you. Nita ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn