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Murray, you're right I haven't attended the Encino group, wish I could. I'm stuck out here in the"Inland empire" where there are very few good neuros and groups are few and far between. I had this same experience with cancer "support" group, but I taught HS while on chemo and didn't have time to search out other groups. I was in Los Angeles area then and might have done better. Or maybe it's just me. Rayilyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn