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Does anyone know how I can get in touch with John Cottingham? I've tried until I'm blue in the face, and everything keeps coming back. This whole process can be simplified if PIEN will accept an attachment, so that everyone taking the survey can download and go from there. If this is not possible, and believe me, I wish no one PC harm, given an address, I can mail the survey to the Web Master, and he can safely post it. What I'm trying for is a professional environment because I want to contact other organizations to invite their members to participate. Also, I'm hoping all of us will contact area support groups for caretakers as well as others who are not on line. We want a large sample, and we want to be professional about it! Other ways to go include: having everyone contact me at my email address for a copy of the survey. OR join forces with someone who already has a web page with room who will volunteer to carry the survey. Greg, bless you, recommends my developing a web page. That's not in the books for me right now though it might be an option at some point in time. In all of these cases, I believe we'll lose numbers. PIENs reputation is that of being established, of being professional and of being respected. I know the list owners are open to anything that might enable us to learn from each other. Thanks for listening and for joining me in small miracle hunting,, E of the headdress ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn