I"ve worn Varilux progressive lenses for over 16 yrs, trifocals with no lines. However, my close vision is not so great with them anymore. I did not like wearing 2 pairs of glasses. Maybe my comments don't apply here, but I know that some people still don't know about progressives. They are also thin, but very expensive. Rayilyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn