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hi all as a former co-owner of this listserv may i suggest that our opinions as to which topics are 'useful' or 'informative' or 'inconsequential' may change with our moods and our circumstances change for the sake of change is unproductive busy-ness change due to learning and growth is productive and sometimes scary work one of the consequences of joining this list is becoming part of an existing and constantly evolving on-line community of two thousand subscriptions representing who knows how many individuals and/or 'list-exploders' this unique, not to say unprecedented, service to the pd cyber world was created in november 1993 and has been maintained continually since then through the immeasureable generosity of list-founder barbara patterson, not to mention the free use of the best commercial e-mail list software program on the market, and the free (count'em!) free multi-megabytes of computer space for storing and indexing every message posted by every listmember, past and present, since november 1993 (don't even try to count'em!) at the university of toronto, in ontario, in canada (please note current monetary exchange rates for the cdn dollar) anyone posting anything here is making an effort to communicate in some way at some level and that is the primary purpose of any e-mail group in principle as responsible and voluntary (nobody twisted my arm to join) members of this community (or any e-mail list group for that matter), it is not for us to judge what is given here (or anywhere, in fact, but that's another soapbox), but it is our prerogative and free choice to assess what we get here i suggest that changing our focal lenses from picking out what we don't like about xyz-list to picking out what we do like about xyz-list might just cause some of the 'unnecessary' posts to change their spots we may not get want we want but we always get what we need janet janet paterson: an akinetic rigid subtype, albeit perky, parky . pd: 54/41/37 cd: 54/44/43 tel: 613 256 8340 email: [log in to unmask] . snail mail: 375 Country Street, Apt 301, Almonte, Ontario, Canada, K0A 1A0 . a new voice: the nnnewsletter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/janet313/ . a new voice: the wwweb site: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/ . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn