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Janet: I will reply to your last post and then I'm done whether you choose to
post back or not. This kind of non-pd discussion on list is exactly about
what I am complaining.

You ask about my "more people than not" statement. I admit to hyperbole to
try make a point. What I should have said is that almost everyone who posts
off list to me on this subject, deletes far more than they read and my sense
of those who post on the subject on list is that more are objecting to the
lack of PD content then are cheering it on.

For that matter, some of your statements appear to be hyperbolic:
1. While even one is too many, how many PWP have you heard of who committed
suicide. And while you're at it, how many with cancer, or MS or other
debilitating disease. And eventually, how many with no physical disease but
rather a mental disorder. The attempt to link suicide with PD as if they were
follow ons doesn't even rise to disingenuous. And how many of those with PD
may have never thought of it until they read your posts. It seems to me that
posting suicide information for a list who primary function is the antithesis
of suicide is both contrary and counter productive

2. While I take your word for it only arguendo that "suicide and attempted
suicide is
 (sic) a tragic and needless result of clinical depression which is a totally
curable mood disorder....", I point out that this is a PD list, not a CD list
and even if suicide follows CD as night follows day (your implication, not
mine), it is only of marginal interest (humanitarian at best), to PDers who
are not clinically depressed. And I take serious issue with your contention
that 40%-60% (say 50% on average) of PWP are clinically depressed. If I
wasn't loathe to propagate this waste of time, I'd call for a survey of list
members and that bit of hyperbole would go down in flames

3. I understand that from your perspective, CD is more debilitating. Perhaps
those on the list with Schizophrenia or Bi-polar Affective Disorder or other
mood or mental illnesses feel the same way vis a vis their illness. But they
neither trumpet it nor force those of us who joined strictly for PD
information to either suffer through repetitions of it or cull it out time
and again. And since the old compromise of clearly putting NON-PD
in the subject line has gone by the boards, it is no longer possible to
delete by subject so many of those with whom I correspond off list have taken
to deleting by person regardless of the possible germane nature of that
person's subject.

4. Wasting time and space is more than my opinion unless you delete the
opinions of those you don't care for without reading or taking cognizance of
their content. It also appears to be the opinion of at least one of the list
owners, if not on your hobby horse subject, then on at least one other non PD
thread just recently.

5. You are extremely computer literate. Can you not bundle the e-mail
addresses of those who frequently compliment you and request reposting about
CD and I presume suicide, and send your reposting to all of them in one
keystroke rather than burdening the rest of the list with it.

6. While a delete key is essential, so is a space bar and a dollar sign. But
deleting is not merely hitting a delete key. At least on AOL, if  deleted
after first having been read, it goes into "old mail" and into storage in the
personal file cabinet. If deleted without being read it goes into "mail
recently deleted". In either case it takes either additional time and effort
to further completely delete or it takes up space on the hard drive which
could be used better to speed the performance of the machine.

7. Your suggestion that the list cannot survive if complaints intimidate
members from posting is belied by the fact that the list continues despite
these frequent flare-ups and by (what is to me obvious) the clear observation
that the non-pd posters are in the main more bellicose, less retiring and far
less likely to leave the list because of complaints against them then are
less bellicose, more retiring members likely to
leave the list to escape the extraneous matter.

8. When I have something to say regarding PD, its effects, its dietary
restrictions, its medicine, it's clinical trials, or other like subjects, I
say them, They are all in the archives for you or anyone else who wants to
take sides to read. I once or twice mentioned my own hobby horse (Wedgwood)
during a discussion on hobbies and someone actually complained about it when
it was in context. It's unfortunate that my "fight' for better PD context on
the list is viewed by you and probably a vocal few other posters of non-pd
material as censorship. I can only hope that those who feel as I do can be
vocal as well if the situation begins to demand it.

9. Your ending with the solution/problem quote would be all the more germane
if due and accurate recognition were given to who was whom.

As I said earlier, this missive is my last public posting on the subject (at
least for now....never say never). If you decide to reply, make sure the
subject is recognizable or the reply will be deleted in accordance with my
instructions from you. In that case, all your bon mots will fall on blind
eyes.

With respect for your writing ability and your zeal for the list but with
disdain for your choice of subject matter, I remain;

Paul H. Lauer

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