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Bob, Point number one is contra to what UCLA cord blood bank personnel told me. The said that it requires a number of visits by the pregnant mother to the hospital and a few extra blood tests. Not many pregnant women are eager to make extra trips to the hospital nor are they delighted to have blood withdrawn for these extra tests. The head honcho said that so far cord blood cells do not seem to be as versatile as the ones from early blastocyst cells. Point #2: They can't know that it is better. They have handcuffed the others. The cant possibly know this. Not until they allow an accumulation of early embryo (blastocyst) stem cells to be thoroughly tested. It's a case of theology ruling their scientific decisions. Tell them to take the handcuffs off of ESCR (Embryo Stem Cell Research) so that a true comparison can be made. They say it's better because they get them, but keep the other scientists hamstrung with the freeze on any support. Remind them that research and research alone will establish proof of claims, not presuppositions. Another comment re point #2: Each cell in our body has a built in time clock named telomere. To repair a heart, would an old heart be as viable as a fresh one? That infamous sheep, DOLLY, at birth had the shorter (older) telomeres of a six year old from which it was cloned. Point #3 Self administered stem cells. Sounds great on the surface. But that means that the new organs will be just as old as the original one that broke down. Another point: To service a nation of 250 million people that might need such help, would require 250 million storage banks. Hardly practical when you can do the same with less than 100 all-purpose storage banks. In many cases, the patient doesn't have the time available to wait while his/her cell is processed. Pt #4 They admit what I've claimed is their "secret agenda" Some religions are against invitro fertilization because as I read in their literature, "It is not God's way of conception." Tell them when they can sell that directly and not beat around the bushes, then we might listen to what they have to say. They are afraid to push that part of the agenda and create anger among infertile women. If Abraham had been able to produce a son at an earlier age through invitro fertilization, it wouldn't have been necessary for him to make Hagar the handmaiden pregnant. Then the Arab world and the Jewish world would not be in conflict today. In spite of all I've said, you and I are probably wasting our time on this. LOGIC cannot persuade FAITH. As one man said, "My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with the facts." Good Luck Sid PS YOU might quote this: "RESEARCH IS A BLIND DATE WITH KNOWLEDGE." I guess they want us to stay in the dark. ........... SL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn