Sid, The purported fact, the statistic, that one in six pregnancies results from in vitro fertilization seems amazing, but when I think about it, maybe it is not so amazing. Today I received in the mail the current issue of Newsweek magazine: there is an interesting article in it about women who delay starting a family, getting pregnant, until "later" in life and then have subsequent difficulties in getting pregnant. My brother and sister-in-law went to the Mayo Clinic 10-15 years ago for infertility treatments, and, at that time, it seemed to me to be unusual for couples, who wanted to have children, but had difficulty getting pregnant, to undergo such infertility treatments. Now, in my observation, it is very common for couples to undergo infertility treatments, even such seemingly uncommon treatments as in-vitro fertilization. I used to go to women lawyers' meetings, and we would talk about job-related topics; now we talk about infertility treatments, including in-vitro fertilization, and who has undergone which treatment and who is now, or not now, pregnant. I know women in their lates 20s and early 30s who have delayed getting pregnant until after law school, and somewhat older women who have delayed getting pregnant until after they are established in their law careers, and they are pursuing or have pursued various infertility treatments, including in-vitro fertilization. I also know several male attorneys who have confided in me their ( and their partners') difficulties with infertility. And, I know others as well, outside my occupation, who have or who have had these difficulties. I have no idea of the actual numbers, but I personally think infertility treatments, and even in-vitro fertilization, are common in our time, probably more common than many of us realize. And this is totally speculative on my part, but my observation would be that many people, even in catholic Green Bay, Wisconsin, and elsewhere in religious sectors of the United States, know people who are desperately trying to get pregnant and who, if they have the money and the biological time, will go to seemingly extreme, and semingly uncommon, measures to get pregnant. That explains to me all the frozen embryos in all those labs all across the country, and probably the world as well.. And that explains to me all those complicated, soul-searching, gut-wrenching legal, ethical, scientific, and religious arguments about what is appropriate to do with those frozen embryos. And everybody knows about all those frozen embryos, and everybody knows some couple, or often multiple couples, who are trying to get pregnant and who are undergoing infertility treatments. And, in my mind, that explains, in part, aside from all those compelling reasons discussed in the media and on this list re: the rationality of support for stem cell research, the willingness of people to go one more step, to go past in-vitro fertilization and accept embryonic stem cell research as a possible means of providing a treatment, or a cure, for debilitating diseases and conditions such as PD. And, of course, all these people also tend to have personal experience or knowledge of persons with diabetes, PD, Alzheimer's Disease, spinal cord injuries, etc. And all these people see, or have seen, on television or in movies such celebrities as Michael J. Fox, Christopher Reeve, and Mary Tyler Moore. I think we live in a brave, new world where in-vitro fertilization occurs often and stem cell research is occurring or can occur. We can catalog and present legal, scientific, ethical, and religious arguments for and against in-vitro fertilization, for and against stem cell research, for and against almost anything. (I apologize if I have made any scientific errors here, but I am not a scientist). At the bottom is the public's, our own, understanding, acceptance, support--and use or anticipated use-- of these new, scientific procedures. I am confused by the President's reported intention to retain political support from the Catholic voting block (which supposedly had an impact upon his election) and his careful handling of the recent visit of the Pope (which may or may not have gone past normal diplomatic protocal). If I had five seconds with the President, or with the Pope, I would say: "Stem cells? You think all those designated voters, Catholic by religion, will vote automaticly against stem cell research? Remember the birth control pill, the polar opposite of infertility treatments, but the scientific wonder of its time?" Think about it, public understanding, acceptance, support, and use of a new, scientific development. All those many packages of birth control pills being dispensed every day from probably every pharmacy in this country and across the world. Upon reflection I do think it is possible that one out of every six pregnancies comes from in-vitro fertilization. I HOPE that the statistics actually do show that one out of every six pregnancies in our time results from the use of in-vitro fertilization. I think that that will make a difference when we all sit down and think about our individual opinion, our individual approach, in regard to stem cell research, our newest, brave-new-world of scientific development. [ I am still under self-imposed, house arrest with this cold, but the cat thinks I am underfoot, interfering with his naps, and such, and he is threatening to kick me out. He discovered the cords and wires to the PC yesterday, and I expect a disruption in my e-mail momentarily, Katie. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn