Hi Charlie: Thanks for putting a human face on PD transplant research. I saw an abstract somewhere, that used engineered cells that are sensitive to a rare antibiotic. If the cells were over productive, they can be trimmed back with an exposure to the antibiotic. Puts "re-" back in research. Ray ..................................................... "Charles T. Meyer, M.D." wrote: > > HI > Ray, David and list, > > I saw you mention my name. And yes I was part of the second fetal > transplant double blind study . This is the Olanow,Freeman, Goetz group who > ran the experiment for 2 years and then the experiment did not finish on > time. I likely will officially know the outcome of that study next month > but I am relatively sure I got the cells. However in addition to some > improvements I developed, a runaway dyskinesia . This is what Fahn called > this movement which developed and This is dyskinesia which is not > controlled by reducing the l-dopa taken., I then followed up with STN -DBS > surgery which helped a great amount. The dyskinesia virtually vanished on > the Left, while on the right I do develop some dystonia even with my > stimulators off > > I have mixed feelings about the continuation of this process. I am hoping > that the surgery winds up useful to somebody else. I think that placement > of the cells is an important issue. Also the differences in the patients is > likely important. I do feel the research should continue at a slow pace > since I am hoping that stem cells will be a cure(and the use of 8-12 week > embryos will be a relic of the past), It sounds as though Freed and Do you have the inside scoop? Of these fetal implants, is the active ingredient stem cells in the tissue? > Fahn had quite a disagreement .Fahn saying that the procedure should not > be done and Freed giving a more positive read on it, The design of the > Olanow/Freeman/Goetz is for longer (2 years) which has made waiting for > the blind to be broken excruciatingly long especially since I was subject > 002 in 1995 or 96. In spite or maybe because of this study experience I > still am a strong advocate of research > and double blind studies using patients. > > Thanks for letting me let off a little steam here. perfect place, Reality check Appreciated. Thanks for the inside scoop to an interesting subject. > Charlie > > 01:18 PM 8/25/01 -0700, you wrote: > Ray, > > Do you ever monitor the PD list (PIENO)? There were a few who had been a > part of the fetal implant studies. One that I remember for sure is Dr. > Charles Meyer (psychiatrist) Charlie had some bad dyskinesias because of it. > I remember another couple who had the "placebo" surgery > > Charles T. Meyer, M.D. > Middleton, WIsconsin > Ray Strand Prairie Sky Design -----------------( on the Edge of the Prairie Abyss )--------------- when the sky is clear the ground is visible 49/dx PD 47/40? onset ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn