I am concerned too about Rachel's withdrawal (but as Marcy says I'm not sure whether it is actual or whether she's still eavesdropping), but it seems to me indicative of what is occuring across the world this week. Everywhere, we are drawing lines in the sand. We are reducing our world to a set of binaries: us and them, friends and foes, pro and anti -terrorist, pro and anti- American. If an expression is read as "anti-American" I will sign off, draw my line in the sand. Admittedly, Rachel may not have the energy to "fight" for an ideal in this virtual space. I can understand. My grad students this morning pointed out how unproductive their week had been -- it wasn't a good week for thinking through. What we know, however, is that a dualistic response is simple, but never adequate. When my younger son hits his brother, the older might react by trying to strangle him. I can intervene, but as I do, it helps to understand what motivated the initial strike. It helps to talk together. I don't know if those in the terrorist organizations have reasoning capacity -- fanaticism would seem to be at odds with reasoning -- but I know that with my kids I try and talk first. And if that doesn't work, I send them to their rooms until they cool down. What I'm hearing coming from the political elite in the US sounds very much like they too need to go to their rooms and cool down. Unfortunately, on the street many in Canada and the US need to cool down too -- we're hearing of muslims being harrassed, mosques being threatened, etc. I guess my hope is that as intellectuals in Canada (the US's second biggest friend after Mexico) we would be able to advise our friend to cool down, to analyze the facts, to see the people in Kabul who are just as innocent as the people in the WTC, and not to become terrorists who take their might into other people's turf. Just because it was done to the US, doesn't mean they should give as they got. Violence, we know from experience, begets violence, until someone has the courage to stop. Rob Irish -- ********************************* Dr. Robert Irish, Director Language Across the Curriculum Applied Science and Engineering University of Toronto Sandford Fleming B670 416-978-6708 ******************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-