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Don, I think that you  were a bit misdirected when you characterized some
of us as:--"that these misled and naive people " I don't think that we are
misled or naive, but we come down in a different place than you. I
respect  you and your  opinions. please respect the ones of us who differ ,


At 09:18 AM 9/19/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Pardon me, Rayilyn for referring to you as a "history buff". Thanks for
>correcting me, although since a"buff" is defined by the American Heritage
>dictionary as being "one who is enthusiastic and knowledgeable about a
>given subject, why....I suppose I must have erred in thinking that a
>history teacher would fit that definition.
>
>At 12:35 AM 9/19/01 -0400, you wrote:
>>I  vowed  I would shut up,, but have one more response re Don calling me a
>>history "buff'.  This was no hobby, it was a calling and a job.  I was a
>>public school teacher in two inner-city schools for 26 yrs.  My colleagues
>>and I had to maintain peace and order while educating our students armed with
>>nothing but our wits.  I had great students, but some who were angry and
>>destructive.  I once chased an intruder who threatened my class with a chair.
>>  Another teacher had a class held hostage.  Another student was shot in
>>class. One of my colleagues stood between gangs of armed Samoan and Black
>>students to stop a fight.  She had no gun.  A security guard was disemboweled
>>outside our school.  I took a student who had been stabbed in he eye with a
>>pen to the nurse's office.  This was all over 10 yrs ago.   Dave Moreland's
>>sister Mary stills teaches at this same school.   I've heard from others
>>since I retired that it has gotten worse.
>>
>>Surely we have not forgotten the recent violence in our schools where
>>students have killed teachers and students.  Recent events present an
>>unprecedented challenge to our intelligence, patience and resolve.  I don't
>>think people are interested in the historical causes of our situation.  I
>>feel like the guy on MSNBC town meeting last night who lost his brother on
>>Pan Am over Lockerbie.  He has been after the Congress to do something about
>>airport security ever since.  Nobody paid attention and he is so upset and so
>>am I.
>>
>>I am just praying that the President, his advisors and allies use their heads
>>and that someone in the portals of power have learned some lessons from
>>history.
>>
>>If I didn't have PD I'd be back in the "trenches" at school.  I am not
>>sitting in an ivory tower mulling over the past at my leisure.
>>
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