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part two of two: ============================================================ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:42:19 -0400 Subj: Re: New Member and a Nightmare ------------------------------------------------------------ At 18:38 2001/09/16 EDT, Sharon Headley wrote: >I am a new subscriber the this network. I would like to briefly share my >story----- >My dear sister was diagnosed with young onset Parkinson's about 12 years ago. >She has had excellent care-including a pallidotomy AND Deep Brain Stimulation >over the years- but each operation was minimally successful, at best. She >currently receives Botox injections for severe dystonia about once evry 3 >months. >While degenerative, things appeared "handlable" till about 3 years ago--at >this time my sister began experinecing classic symptoms of >psychoses-including paranoid delusions. ... there is a lot of info in the list archives about drug induced psychosis since we are mostly people with pd ourselves, perhaps you'd be more comfortable discussing your problem with your sister on the caregiver's list? janet ============================================================ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:42:21 -0400 Subj: Re: perceptions of confrontations: re-re-post ------------------------------------------------------------ hi all i wanted to share this response with everyone: >... I am reminded of an old Jesuit friend of >mine who used to say, "God answers every prayer. >If God says no, it's because he's got something >better in mind." Whenever the talk turned to >gloomy topics and the struggle between good and >evil, my friend would slap his knee and cackle >(he was in his 80s at the time), "Ha! ha! ha! >I know who wins!" ... janet co-knee-slapper ============================================================ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:03:25 -0400 Subj: ambushed? ------------------------------------------------------------ are terrorist attacks not similar to sudden sneak ambushes? are urgent violent efforts to 'take out the ambushers' not similar to rallying a lynch mob? does the modern 'civilized' world not espouse principles of the rule of law? does a lynch mob led by the victimized party follow those principles? are we after justice or revenge? they are not the same thing ============================================================ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:36:07 -0400 Subj: Re: Getting Parkinsn Back on Topic ------------------------------------------------------------ hi john your statements below don't seem to reconcile with the 'welcome to new members' message as written by barb patterson (as pasted further below) could we please have some input from her? thank you janet ps which e-mail address is the correct one for barb patterson? At 11:19 2001/09/19 -0500, John Cottingham wrote: >During the past week we have regressed and forgotten what the Parkinsn list >is all about. The quality and quantity of mail has been about many things >not related to having or curing Parkinson's disease or the discussion of >ideas on treatment or caring for others. > >Parkinsn is not American, Canadian, or European but international. Parkinsn >is not Christian, Jewish or Muslim. Prayer is a personal expression of a >belief in a god or God or nothing at all. Our subscribers come in all >colors, beliefs, and 40 countries of the world. Opinions on anything else >except the fight against Parkinson's have no place here. Caring for one >another requires nothing but love. > >Once again, we have seen the resurgence of "Funnies". Parkinsn is not the >place for those. > >Posting of articles not germane to Parkinsn should also be refrained. When >in doubt consult the Parkinsn Charter/Guidelines at: > >http://parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkinsn.html > >Complaints or disputes may be resolved when addressed to the list owners at: > >mailto:Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > >OR > >mailto:John Cottingham ><[log in to unmask]> >---------------------------------------------------------------------- At 07:22 2001/09/10 -0400, janet paterson wrote: >hi all > >there were some questions as to why i posted the following message >on the 4th of september > >i re-subscribed to parkinsn after a one month sabbatical >and received this confirmation message as the only info for a new subscriber >from barb patterson the list-owner > >i assume therefore that the direction of the list >has resumed its normal sane and accepting self and >congratulate barb on her sensitive choice of words > >here's to tolerance and sharing! >and >here's to support and awareness for PD and PARKIES everywhere! > >please note that my website (url in my signature below) >was dedicated to barb patterson and this listserv in may 1999 >and will remain so > > >janet > > >>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:27:02 -0400 >>From: [log in to unmask] >>Subj: You are now subscribed to the PARKINSN list >>To: Janet Paterson <[log in to unmask]> >> >>Your subscription to the PARKINSN list (Parkinson's Information Exchange >>Network) has been accepted. >> >>Welcome! You have joined the PARKINSN mailing list, also known as the >>Parkinson's Information Exchange Network (PIEnet). >> >>Please send a message to the list members (if you want to) introducing >>yourself, perhaps telling us how you found us, and any >>Parkinson's-related topics you would like. >> >>The address for posting messages to Parkinsn is: >>[log in to unmask] >> >>Let me introduce myself. I am a secretary for four faculty members in the >>School of Nursing, McMaster University. In September, 1992, I was >>diagnosed as having Parkinson's ... hence my interest in this list. >> >>My purpose in starting the list was the exchange of information about >>Parkinson's. The list rapidly changed into the largest support group I >>know. Besides its original purpose, the list has become 'a means of >>feeling connected' to others... a way of feeling we're not alone... of >>making the road of living with pd easier to bear. >> >>I have always felt that we hear each other better on the list because we >>can't see each other. Symptoms, age, colour, race, don't interfere. The >>list knows no countries, has nothing to do with money... there's no >>"what's in it for me?" >> >>But these same qualities mean our words are open to misinterpretation. >>Since others can't see our wry smile or wink or hear our tone of voice, a >>goal of keeping it "short & sweet" can result in appearing abrupt. >> >>Also, the same word can have different meanings and different shades of >>meaning to different people in different areas of the world so care must >>be taken in both your writing and your reading of the messages. >> >>Flaming and selling are not allowed. Please send messages in plain text >>only. Do not make any changes in medication or any treatments without >>consulting your physician. Be kind. Be honest. Share the time fairly.... >>if you think you have taken more than your share of the list resources, >>you just might have. >> >>Keep it generally related to Parkinson's. Don't abuse the generosity of >>the University of Toronto's free gift of the list. Don't include all of >>the message to which you are replying. Use plain text with no >>attachments. Wash your hands with soap before you eat. :) In other words, >>use the same common courtesy that you would elsewhere. >> >>We need everyone's voices if we are going to make a difference in the >>care and treatment of pd and the motivation and funding of research. >>Speak up. Tell your story. Ask your questions. Answer questions. >>Debate/argue about the answers. Debate/argue about the goals, >>administration, day-to-day functioning of the list. Tell a joke... but >>please don't attempt to silence anyone else's voice. >> >>The messages on the Parkinsn list may be personal but they are NOT >>private... never have been. The illusion of privacy when using e-mail is >>just that: an illusion. >> >>Never, in the history of this planet, has this kind of relationship >>existed. We meet in a place that has no walls. We talk to our friends >>whom we have never seen. We care deeply for other members whom we will >>never physically hug. Folks, we're making it up as we go along, so any >>rules have to be flexible. Our Parkinsn Guidelines can be viewed at: >>http://parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkinsn.html >> >>If you wish to view Parkinsn messages online you may do so at: >>http://parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/maillist.html >> >>I hope you enjoy your involvement with the Parkinsn Information Exchange >>Network. >> >>Barbara Patterson Owner Parkinsn John Cottingham co-owner Parkinsn >> >>Please save this message for future reference, especially if this is the >>first time you are subscribing to an electronic mailing list. ... ============================================================ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:33:50 -0400 Subj: NEWS: Man 'unaware' of criminal harassment ------------------------------------------------------------ hi all our incredible brains and their incredibly sensitive chemical balance! schizophrenia is said to be due to an overabundance of dopamine janet ------------------------------------------------------------ Man 'unaware' of criminal harassment Delusions involved actor and NBC news Wenesday September 19, 2001 - An Ottawa man who believes he is engaged to 'Dawson Creek's Katie Holmes and says NBC owes him millions of dollars for news story ideas has been committed to a mental hospital indefinitely. The order was made by Justice David Dempsey yesterday, after Michael Willis, 36, was found to suffer from mental illness so acutely that he couldn't be aware he was criminally harassing Ben Heineman, general council for GE, which owns NBC, and Martin Holmes, the 22-year-old actor's father, with hundreds of phone calls. Dr. John Bradford, a forensic psychiatrist at the Royal Otttawa Hospital, testified Mr. Willis is highly delusional and possibly schizophrenic. "There is no cure for either of these conditions", he said. "This is going to be a very difficult road. Very recently he has said it's quite within his rights to call Mr. Heineman and Mr. Holmes because GE owes him millions of dollars, and he is Katie Holmes' fiance." Dr. Bradford said evidence of Mr. Willis' mental illness appeeared in late 1996 and early 1997. Its onset represents a tragedy for the sick man. Mr. Willis, who grew up in Ottawa, excelled in academics and sports, finishing top of his class in high school and undergraduate university studies. He was a Rhodes Scholar and top of his economics class at Oxford University. He received a PhD from the prestigious Wharton School of Business in Pennsylvania and had several articles in the Economist. In the phone calls, Mr. Willis demanded money for story ideas he said Tom Brokaw was stealing and money for an engagement ring for Ms. Holmes. The doctor said that people who obstruct Mr. Willis' view of things could be in danger if he is released without treatment. ============================================================ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:39:59 -0400 Subj: Re: perceptions of confrontations: re-re-post ------------------------------------------------------------ hi all i wanted to share this with you wp wrote: >excellent janet - excellent > >i hope you are going to put this in the forum. >we can't please everyone all of the time......but >if I screw up, I dont need a public hand slap, >just gently tell me I screwed up. I'll try harder >next time. Slap my hand and I struggle with exactly >what u speak of.....confrontation. what - do people >think we expose ourselves because we love to be put >down? why do I post? Been asking myself lately if >its down to simply a bad habit that i can't break. > >anyway, keep up the good work janet. it seems to me that this idea of perceptions and 'what we see is what we want to see' is only the tip of the iceberg herein lies the source of all conflict and misunderstanding methinks i write and post out of a need to learn and to share others have seen my postings as a generous gift as pompous preaching as bold braggadoccio (sp ?) as an obsessive compulsive disorder but i am learning that what others see has nothing to do with me or what i do it has only to do with them and whatever their perceptions are filtered by not to add to the us/them conflict concept but i cannot be guilty of what i do not do i cannot be guilty of what others want to see and neither can you janet ============================================================ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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