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This apparently good-humored jousting about the correctness of various adages as translated into French and/or Latin strikes me as very irrelevant to this PD list. Just when I think that this thread has stopped, someone else revives it. ???? And the titles of the new postings do not give me advance notice so that I can delete them without opening and reading them. Katie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn